Digg - Gran Turismo 5 officially dated for Christmas... 09

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defaultdigger, on 12/01/2008, -4/+66It better be worth the wait
- BoonTobias, on 12/01/2008, -11/+4Yeah, i didn't like prologue much, the final game must be very polished.
  I didn't buy Grid, burnout or any racing games because of this one, and the fact that none of the news games have local multiplayer..
  I'm still playing 4 and it still kicks ass
- ZaxCG2, on 12/01/2008, -1/+5Needless to say, I'm sure looking through the complete list of automobiles you can use will be spine-tingling. :3
- askjeffro, on 12/01/2008, -1/+6Looks like its going to be GT5 vs Forza 3. Should be one heck of fight when these games drop late next year.
  
  Someone should open a virtual stock market on these two titles so people can place their bets on which one ends up being better; would be real interesting to see the predictive power the masses have in this regard. However I anticipate it may come down to personal taste once the games come out.
  - neFariou5, on 12/02/2008, -9/+4It'll be just like the original xbox. Every xbox fanboy would tell me that Project Gotham Racing pwned Gran Turismo, and then I borrowed an xbox and PGR, what an awful game that was. But xbox fanboys continued to tell me it was better than GT.
    
    Same with Forza, which is a GT clone but more arcade-style with the driving semi-automatic that tells you exactly where to drive and when to brake.
    
    I'm sure Forza 3 will be the same, and GT continues to better everything else. But xbox fanboys will always claim the opposite just because they're xbox fanboys.
  - apena89, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1intrade?
- mikeyeah, on 12/02/2008, -1/+3To quote Steve Langford, "who gives a *****, who gives a *****."
  - ensta2, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1I dugg you up since I haven't heard that in forever. Been a long time since I had Sirius
Relaxxation, on 12/01/2008, -5/+832009? Don't tell me about stuff that far in advance. If I hear hype for a year then by the time it comes out I'm gonna feel like it's old and pass it by.
- chaosblade77, on 12/01/2008, -2/+10It seems like most developers/publishers have trouble getting the timing right for hyping and advertising a game before release. It's almost always too early (SCE) or too late (Nintendo).
  
  I guess you can't really come up with a "best time for announcement" that works for every game since they are all different. Still, I think the "Smash Bros Strategy" was great, it just didn't account for the delays of the game. Hopefully we see more unique(?) ways of promoting games in the future.
  - YoctoYotta, on 12/02/2008, -1/+2Yeah, I agree, most publishers are pretty bad about it. I think 6 to 8 months is good for the actual heavy promotion. When developers are doing things like podcasts and community oriented sites, such as with Bioshock's and MGS 4's release, it's just enough time to put out a lot of good content and most people aren't bored to death of it.
    
    Actually announcing a game is going into development and then going into communication silence isn't such a bad thing for me necessarily, and usually in those cases, it's going to be a game like GT5, or Final Fantasy XIII, or GTA4, or Super Mario Galaxy, which in those cases, it's a no-brainer that something from the franchise will be released eventually. Whether that's a bad thing is up to your obsession with the thought of not having it.
    
    I can usually let it go these days, but I remember going through hell between The Wizard's theatrical release in December of '89 and Super Mario Bros. 3 coming out in mid-February the next year. I can't remember anything on earth I wanted more badly.
- AmazingSteve, on 12/01/2008, -0/+15Apparently, you've missed the last year of hype.
  - Scrappy1850, on 12/01/2008, -0/+27they even released a game hyping the game.
  - MiGs2, on 12/01/2008, -0/+8More like 3 years of hype.
  - SreyaNotfilc, on 12/02/2008, -0/+3I'm sorry, but I just had to point out how brilliant Scrappy's comment was. Carry on...
- tmcal, on 12/01/2008, -3/+3duke nukem forever.
  
  (and ever... and ever...)
  
  Though I do recall Half-Life (the original) having about the same release wait and hype as Duke Nukem at the time. But they actually delivered... and it was worth the wait.
  - strictnein, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2TF2 ended up taking forever and was worth the wait.
  - joekm, on 12/02/2008, -0/+0"sin" was actually the game that was hyped to hell during the time leading up to the original half-life release. they were both released right around the same time, sin ended up sucking and half-life (as we all know) was amazing and hit even harder since it was the underdog.
- YoctoYotta, on 12/02/2008, -0/+3Alan Wake, Killzone 2
  
  I don't expect those games will be "old" upon release, but damn were they announced WAY too early or what?
djskitzy, on 12/01/2008, -12/+35it'd be nice if they brought it out on the PC....

I mean, like, REALLY nice....
- staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -4/+8Yeah, because GT3 and 4 was so gre..... oh. Maybe it has something to do with proprietary engines on playstation hardware.
- nmezib, on 12/01/2008, -3/+22more like PIRACY nice...
  - jermm, on 12/02/2008, -1/+1no online on normal servers though..
- quomen, on 12/01/2008, -3/+5I don't get the point you're trying to make. I'd really love to have Blue Dragon on the PS3. REALLY.
  - BoonTobias, on 12/01/2008, -4/+5lulz blue dragon
  - se7envii, on 12/01/2008, -2/+4I'd rather have it on PC.
- sig7, on 12/01/2008, -10/+4There is more then enough racing sims on the pc. With 90% having superior physics to GT5P.
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -2/+6That must be why they sell so much better ehh?
  - sig7, on 12/01/2008, -6/+2Don't be an idiot. Sales figures do not directly correlate to game quality. Especially when said game is part of a niche genre like racing Sims.
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -2/+2Of course it seems niche to you. Racers rarely ever make it to a million on PC's. And thats like with an installed base of what? 300 million plus? When the PS2 has an install base of 120 million and a game like Gran Turismo 3 sells 9 million then it is bound to have some attention.
  - thellamafarm, on 12/02/2008, -2/+2tell me which games have better physics, and graphics better than gt5p
MrSticky, on 12/01/2008, -22/+15I'd say God of War 3 is more anticipated.
raphael7, on 12/01/2008, -58/+9I have like 4 different copies of the Dark Knight (2 DVDRips, 720P, and a 1080P), all worth the bandwidth
- MooseOfReason, on 12/01/2008, -1/+37That wasn't random as hell...
- MasterGrief, on 12/01/2008, -1/+19I have three PS3s
- hoisonsauce, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2Couldn't you have just...copied your pirated copies?
- ZaxCG2, on 12/01/2008, -1/+14My middle name was once Smitty.
- terrrrrible, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2Someone posted in the wrong topic.
- nrfx, on 12/02/2008, -1/+2I like turtles.
- skyteria, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1Isn't it past your bedtime?
- ensta2, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1awesome they have 1080p rips now?
darkchild82, on 12/01/2008, -12/+13I was certain it would be coming out (finally) in 2009 and Christmas seems to be an appropriate time for a worldwide release (though I believe Japan might get it a bit earlier).

Edit: "arguably the PlayStation 3's most-wanted game" - actually, that title would right now belong to either Killzone 2 or God of War 3, especially after what David Jaffe saw of the latter.
- kingmanic, on 12/01/2008, -4/+5GT5 is higher on my list than killzone 2 or GoW3. It was GT5, FFXIII, Disgeae 3, and MGS4 which motivated me to get a PS3 at launch. It's been worth it.
- Remelox, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1It does say argueably. Either you don't understand what the word means or you are arguing to show the author was correct. Oh, and it is my most anticipated game. That and Forza 3. Although I have yet to see a racing game do what I want, people do seem to be getting closer. Most of the pieces exist in other games but no one has put the package together right.
AboveandBeyond, on 12/01/2008, -40/+9lol this is PS3 most wanted game?
No wonder nobody is buying a PS3.
come to think of it...I can buy an xbox 360 with 8-12 games for the same price as a PS3 on it's own....
- chaosblade77, on 12/01/2008, -3/+15Where do you get your consoles and games?
  
  A 360 and about 10 games for $400 is too good of a deal to pass up.
  - mike17032, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2I would also like to know what ally the truck he is buying this ***** off of is parked in, so I can call the police of course.....
- BoonTobias, on 12/01/2008, -7/+5the most wanted game is already out n00b, this is another big one
- nmezib, on 12/01/2008, -2/+5@AboveandBeyond:
  
  News Flash: it's no longer 2006 and PS3s are no longer going for ridiculous markups on eBay.
  
  for an internet-monger you sure are ill-informed...
- Alchemist11, on 12/01/2008, -1/+88 to 12 games for $59.99 each is ~$480 to $720, you idiot. If you're going to troll, at least say something sensible.
- specialK16, on 12/01/2008, -4/+2Butthurt Ecksbucks fanboy,
- lostsymphonies1, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3Send me a message with a link to the 360 with 8-12 games for that price....i want to buy myself an early Christmas present
ArcadeJunkies, on 12/01/2008, -32/+90Wow, is this xmas's PS3 lineup so bad that you have to look to next years?
- RevChris, on 12/01/2008, -20/+18No , it isn't.
  
  This is a great time to be a gamer.
  - AmazingSteve, on 12/01/2008, -27/+19If you own a 360.
  - MasterGrief, on 12/01/2008, -24/+12On the 360! Whoo!
  - JackMacBastard, on 12/02/2008, -1/+7Rev is quite right. We have a lot to be thankful for in terms of games this year for every system. Apparently there is something negative about that though.
  - chiefbandit2200, on 12/02/2008, -1/+4He's right. There were so many great games that came out this year for both consoles (and PC).
    
    MGS4
    Gears of War 2
    LittleBigPlanet
    GTA IV
    Dead Space
    Fallout 3
    Fable 2
    Soul Calibur IV
    Resistance 2
    Motorstorm 2
    Left 4 Dead
    
    Also - a lot more. It is great time to be a gamer.
- staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -12/+4Um... the only other big name release this year for either console is Prince of Persia. And I cannot think of one for the Wii.
  
  Can you be any more obvious as a troll? Don't they have stealth troll courses or something?
  - MrSticky, on 12/01/2008, -4/+2re5
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -1/+10I think you need to check your calendar MrSticky. If a RE5 demo only going to be released in Japan this week I highly doubt we will see a worldwide release for RE5 for 2008.
  - MrSticky, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2woops, i was thinking next year for some reason. me so stoopid.
- quomen, on 12/01/2008, -10/+3You're just a fanboy Arcade Junkies.. Take another look at the games. There are some great ones out.
- Treshnell, on 12/01/2008, -4/+19This was the year of the 360, from a Christmas perspective anyway. All the best game console deals have been 360 deals. PS3 hasn't really had anything that makes you want to go out and buy it right now.
  
  With the 5 free bluray movies, last year was PS3's chance to shine at Christmas. I missed out on that deal, and was hoping for a similar deal this year, but it looks like I'm left out again.
  
  Here's to hoping for next year's deals!
  - lennybird, on 12/01/2008, -2/+5Working at Target, I can tell you the Wii and its games are rapidly out-selling the PS3 and 360 combined.
  - mike17032, on 12/01/2008, -0/+3People buying it to use as a BR player dont help Sony win the console war, thats how they got themselves into this mess. It might move consoles, but if they move to people that never buy games it hardly matters. The PS3 has a terrible attach rate, and you can bet all the developers know that.
    
    The Wii isnt a whole lot better for 3rd parties. Sure everything Nintendo makes is gold and flys off the shelves. But again thats not going to attract exclusive titles from 3rd parties. The one advantage the Wii has is its much cheaper and shorter development cycle, people dont expect top notch graphics.
  - SreyaNotfilc, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1Excellent point mike. The point of creating a killer console is to have the software subsidize the dollars loss for creating the console. Sony may earn money for every Blu-Ray disc sold, but it hardly match the amount they get from software sold on the PS3. The PS2 was successful in both fronts because DVDs was a "neccessity" as the VHS slowly dissapeared, but the high def format isn't needed (although I'd rather have one than a DVD). Also, they were out early enough to give damage to the Dreamcast as well as hold off the Gamecube and the Xbox with their hardware and software.
    
    Hopefully Sony can find it's way out. I hate to see a company have to pinch pennies because of one "wrong" move.
- kingmanic, on 12/01/2008, -11/+8fun things out lately:
  
  Exclusives :
  -Valkyria Chronicles
  -Little Big Planet
  -Disgea 3
  
  multi - platformers
  -Prince of Persia
  -mirrors edge
  -COD 5
  -MK vs DC
  - cozinator, on 12/01/2008, -9/+3I'm really not hearing much about LBP, especially after everyone was hyping it as a system-seller. It has to be a considered a letdown.
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -1/+6The game sales seem to be quite mum. But the reviews and my personal experience prove it is not a letdown. It has a metascore higher than gears 2 and halo 3. And thats even with the BS scores from variety and jolt.
  - kinseyincanada, on 12/02/2008, -0/+3dude forgot Fallout 3
- Spire3660, on 12/01/2008, -12/+5No console has a racer that even comes close to GT. Forza is a joke, especially with the MS steering wheel.
  - Barbarino, on 12/01/2008, -3/+6Forza is ok compared to GT, GT is still better but I won't shell out money to buy a PS3 just for GT...
  - BoonTobias, on 12/01/2008, -6/+3pgr is actually quite good, better than gt i'd say, and yes forza is a joke
  - mike17032, on 12/01/2008, -3/+2I prefer Forza, hands down. I even prefer PGR, though by a much smaller margin.
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3Thats because you seem to be a fanboy mike..... I hate to tell you like this..... I hope you were sitting down.
    
    PGR is an arcade racer and i wouldn't even compare it to the likes of Sims like forza and GT. But in the eyes of many car enthusiasts, real world racers, and millions of gamers, GT has forza beat.
    
    GT5P is 2.3 million versus Forza 2s 2.2 million. And that is with the 360 having a 6 million lead on their install base. And GT5P isn't even a full game. If that doesn't speak volumes........
    
    btw just kidding about the fanboy part........ unless you are one. O.o
- mike17032, on 12/01/2008, -5/+8When you look at exclusives at least, its abysmal for Sony. Its not going to get any better either, since the game sales for the PS3 lag so far behind the 360 you wont see any developers going exclusive to the PS3 unless Sony brings dump trucks full of money to their HQs. The attach rate is just awful for the PS3.
  
  That said even with just the cross platform stuff there is still plenty to play this christmas. Fallout 3 is a great example.
  
  I still am glad that I have a 360 over a PS3 though, missing out on Fable 2, Gears 2, and the other exclusives would suck.
  - staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -3/+7What are you talking about? 8 out of the 9 million sellers on the PS3 are exclusive. 7 of them are first party. 6 of them didn't sell boatloads day one.. or even in the first month. Just like the last generation the playstation titles have legs. The killer app mentality is something that rode in from the PC gamers into the console world via the xbox. Explosive sales that virtual sales death is not better than moderate sales then legs for years.
    
    The attachment rate is what. PS3 -5.3 Wii- 5.5 360 - 6.6 for first 23 months and 5.3 is horrible?
    
    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171200
    
    What other exclusives does the 360 have aside from Gears, halo, dead rising and fable? As an owner of both systems I can honestly say nothing else really. Especially if you also have a gaming PC.
    
    What is it with 360 fans, are they seriously that misinformed or are they just miniature fud factories?
  - kingmanic, on 12/01/2008, -0/+3Per year the attach rate is nearly the same for all 3 major consoles.
  - Elranzer, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1How do you own .3 of a game? Is that considered flOw? Because I bought flOw...
  - apena89, on 12/03/2008, -1/+1@ Elranzer
    
    Go back to elementary math.
    it's called an average.
stignordas, on 12/01/2008, -2/+10That's like a movie trailer a year in advance, no fair!
- specialK16, on 12/01/2008, -0/+8Remember LOTR? Those sure were some long ass 3 years.
eproepro, on 12/01/2008, -8/+3I feel sorry for the child that wants Santa to bring it this Christmas.
LAMinator, on 12/01/2008, -7/+8Finally! I've been playing the prologue for so long.
- KevinRosa, on 12/01/2008, -1/+18Finally! lol Wait! What?
- motivatedguy, on 12/01/2008, -0/+11Well, keep playing on for another year...
Traductus, on 12/01/2008, -5/+38I'm still waiting for my PreOrder Duke Nukem Forever.
- skyteria, on 12/02/2008, -0/+5Then you're entitled to $549.78 in compounded interest.
SingleMaltWSKY, on 12/01/2008, -9/+1FINALLY!!!!
Please don't suck, Please don't suck, Please don't suck, Please don't suck.
MooseOfReason, on 12/01/2008, -12/+5They're waiting so long to release it because they're trying to figure out how to add a Blu-Ray player onto the game.

Sony sure knows how to make things better!
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/01/2008, -0/+3It doesn't work like that.
jayzeus, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10Why are they taking their sweet-sweet time like this? How long has the game been in development....?
- SingleMaltWSKY, on 12/01/2008, -1/+2Great point - I posted above "FINALLY!!!".....but now that I think about it, why the hell has this taken so long? it BETTER NOT SUCK after all this time. I've enjoyed Forza 2 for a long time now, but I really want to see this game ASAP.
  - skoles, on 12/01/2008, -0/+5It was supposed to be released THIS Christmas after having been pushed back another year. IIRC it was intended to be a Spring title after the systems launch.
  - SingleMaltWSKY, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7Back to Forza 2 I suppose.
- kingfoot, on 12/01/2008, -2/+4japanese exotic and domestic car lover. thats who's making the game. that's why it's taking so long.
krekc, on 12/01/2008, -20/+23So realistic that when you hit a wall you incur no damage! w00t! To little way to late.
- shinpoe, on 12/01/2008, -1/+5actually, they said car damage will be included in gt5
- sturmgiest, on 12/02/2008, -1/+3company reps say a lot of things pre-release, but a lot of it always turns out not to be true
- Remelox, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1Damage will be in. How good it will be is leaft to be seen. I think it was the original Forza where I got tired of seeing the same damn bouncing bumper damage on the replays. Some of the games out there have incredible damage effects but are not really simulators.
  
  What I really want to see is cars that can flip. Old car licenses didn't allow damage because the auto makers were afraid of people thinking their cars wrecked easily. They finally let off on that fallacy but they drew the line at flipping and anything that could be viewed as fatal. I don't know how they feel about that now. The companies that are worst about it are Ferrari and Porsche and prestige companies like that.
  
  I also want to be able to drive off the track and over a cliff if one is near. Especially if there is a chance of landing on a car below.
petebot, on 12/01/2008, -13/+5I can't believe there's this much hype over a G.D. racing game.
- ZaxCG2, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3Hey man... I'm not a fan either... I'm into more arcade-like racing and thats about it...
  But you have to admit, this game is going to look amazing and is pushing the boundaries. If you have a small ounce of a car nut in you, you'll enjoy seeing this game regardless of how it plays.
techobo, on 12/01/2008, -5/+21Geez that's a long wait. Isn't that the same day as the Xbox 720 release?
- dysonlu, on 12/01/2008, -10/+4Same day as support for the 360 ends.
  - sonicbliss, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2Ouch!
Fleagleman, on 12/01/2008, -25/+27THIS is the Playstation 3's most wanted game? I'm really glad I bought a 360 now.
- awtripp, on 12/01/2008, -7/+13Why? What is the 360's most wanted game?
  - stubear, on 12/01/2008, -20/+8Halo 3, GoW 1&2...shall I go on?
  - awtripp, on 12/01/2008, -13/+7Yes, please list games that haven't come out yet.
  - specialK16, on 12/01/2008, -17/+11MGS4 alone beats the ***** out of those games.
  - singularityv, on 12/01/2008, -1/+11I'd say GTA4.
    
    IIRC, 360 sales spiked when GTA4 came out. Hell, that's when I bought my 360.
  - Spire3660, on 12/01/2008, -14/+1They should have jsut called it GoW 2, more of the same......
  - dysonlu, on 12/01/2008, -7/+10LOL @ Halo 3 as "most wanted" game. LOL.
  - frepnog, on 12/01/2008, -8/+5"Yes, please list games that haven't come out yet." i think the point was that on PS3, we keep hearing how great the NEXT game that is supposed to come out is going to be.
    
    and then said game comes out, is firmly mediocre, and then the cycle begins again.
    
    /see - uncharted, heavenly sword, little big planet, the list goes on.
    // do you guys REALLY think Killzone 2 is going to sell worth a *****? A sequel to a mediocre PS2 game that did not sell especially well?
    /// Gran Turismo games SUCK. I drive a real car every day, and i am telling you this - in a real car, i CAN make a banking turn without hitting a ***** wall at 35 miles an hour. Real cars handle NOTHING like Gran Turismo.
  - specialK16, on 12/01/2008, -5/+9Halo sucks, only good thing is online gaming, and even so, even Warhawk is better than Halo online.
  - sonicbliss, on 12/01/2008, -9/+3FREPNOG
    
    What the hell are you on about you CHIMP???? LittleBigPlanet MEDIOCRE??? Oh yeah ITS ONLY THE HIGHEST RATED EXCLUSIVE ON ANY PLATFORM! Thats what you 360 boyzzz base great games off right?? Metacritic?
    The games got an obscene amount of 10/10s!
    
    Oooh Googoo gaga Queers of war loads of guys with big Guns and big pecks and bulging biceps- hoorah! LOL!
    
    Guys like you make 360 seem like the console for broke trigger-happy degenerates thats why you cant get anything that aint a straight-up balls-out "Yeehaw!" shooter, like LBP or MGS4.
    
    Seriously find something else to do if you dont like the ps3-what a b!%^&
  - frepnog, on 12/01/2008, -2/+6"LOL @ Halo 3 as "most wanted" game. LOL."
    
    laugh all you want... but a game that sells that much in ONE ***** DAY and is arguably one of the most played online games this side of WoW pretty much says it all.
    
    nothing on PS3 gets played like Halo 3. and you know it.
  - frepnog, on 12/01/2008, -2/+4to sonicbliss -
    
    i know LBP is a good game. i bought it myself. But just like i keep saying - it doesn't matter if NO ONE IS BUYING IT. Just like i predicted, it simply isnt selling, and the fact that i have seen most of the copies that DID sell for sale again used at Gamestop tells me what I already knew - that it was on the wrong system.
    
    as far as the rest of your comment - please, grow up.
  - kronix2, on 12/01/2008, -2/+3"LOL @ Halo 3 as "most wanted" game. LOL."
    
    Halo 3 had the biggest opening weekend for any game/movie/album/DVD ever. There's nothing funny about that.
    
    Right now, the 360's most wanted game is Gears 2. It's sold 3 million, while Resistance 2 will probably only barely break 1 million.
  - chaosblade77, on 12/02/2008, -1/+4I'm pretty sure Mario Galaxy is the highest rated exclusive on any currently supported console. LBP is a 2 point second.
    
    That aside, how can a game that's already released be the "most wanted" game? I assume we're talking about future releases people want, not games that came out last month that people already have.
  - jermm, on 12/02/2008, -0/+2CoD:4 and GTA 4, but they are multiplatform.
    
    So Gears.
  - Elranzer, on 12/02/2008, -0/+2Most wanted on the 360? Final Fantasy XIII
  - apena89, on 12/03/2008, -1/+1@ frepnog
    
    Using sales to justify how good a game was? fail. LBP has a higher press average than any x360 game to date. Numbers don't mean better game.
    LBP was just straight up FUN. Legit fun too. Not "this-game-is-hardcore!" fun. It is more like "ROFLMFAO-OMG-I-DIED-WTF!-AHHAHAHAHA;-WHAT-THE-TIT?!" fun.
- tnoy, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3I'm glad I own both.
  
  GT5 will be a lot of fun.
dacrazydude, on 12/01/2008, -4/+29WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE. Give me my GT5 already.
illogik, on 12/01/2008, -4/+32I completely forgot GT5 has even existed. It has been off the radar far soooo long.
HeyArnold, on 12/01/2008, -12/+12LOL, whatever.
why dont they sell more demos?, or just say that GT5 is the biggest crock of ***** since Duke Nukem forever!
nmezib, on 12/01/2008, -4/+21They're still making it?

oh yeah, and ask them whatever the hell happened with Gran Turismo for the PSP. Try not to laugh as they fumble across an answer. Seriously, it's just sad.
- ThaDRD, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10No doubt. Is it that hard to make a racing game...the SAME game you have been making with only updated graphics each go around?
  - SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/01/2008, -6/+2When it takes 6 months for someone to model one car, yes, it is THAT hard.
  - Zackinabox, on 12/01/2008, -3/+3Thats For games like NFS and PGR Grang turismo has a very anvanced car handling engine. Plus they have a ***** of cars
rowlodge, on 12/01/2008, -3/+1if were still here, id rush that thing to market,now!
staticneuron, on 12/01/2008, -9/+36Must there be so many Anti- PS3 fanboys on a PS3 related article?
- dysonlu, on 12/01/2008, -2/+22What? You expect them to play on their 360?
- pgouy, on 12/01/2008, -2/+7Welcome to the internets...
- philhatesyou, on 12/01/2008, -5/+19Their 360s are being repaired.
jellygraph, on 12/01/2008, -14/+7Lol. By the time it arrives, no one except the hardcore fans will remember the hype. Sucks for Sony. They should have thought ahead, rather than sink into complacency, and they wouldn't be in this mess they are in... So many mistakes, so many.
- specialK16, on 12/01/2008, -4/+10At least they didn't had to fix half of all the consoles they sold.
  - HolyChimp, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2MS must be doing something right if people are still buying 360s KNOWING that they'll fail. Maybe that's because the 360 has games out now rather than 'next year'.
- jellygraph, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1true... the xbox sucks as well, but for some reason or another, people are buying them more than the ps3. i might get one too... it's probably the price. but, in all honesty, i feel sorry for sony
Rothgarr, on 12/01/2008, -4/+15When does Forza 3 come out? (speaking of driving sims...)
- Spire3660, on 12/01/2008, -21/+3Lol calling Forza a racing sim compared to GT5 is being kind at best.
- Spire3660, on 12/02/2008, -8/+2NO idea while im being buried. The Forza dev team doesnt have anywhere NEAR the industry pull the Polyphony Digital team has. Polyphony Digital MADE the in car telemetry interface on the new Nissan GT-R. Forza has no racing pedigree whatsoever. Plus the steering wheel selection on the Xbox is horrible compared to the PS3.
  - DeepFreezed, on 12/02/2008, -2/+3have you played Forza2? phailed
  - Spire3660, on 12/03/2008, -0/+0I would if I was allowed to use my legacy GT4 steering wheel that i can use on my PS3/PC, instead of that MS piece of crap wheel.
- sturmgiest, on 12/02/2008, -1/+1spire if you want a real racing game get gtr evolution. neither forza nor gt are realistic.
MeatMountain, on 12/01/2008, -5/+25Yay, a "realistic" racing game. I can't wait to pop this game in and get my C level drivers license by trying to get a good score on a braking test in a simulated Honda Civic and failing it 100 times.
- BoonTobias, on 12/01/2008, -0/+11i'm doing that right now in gt4, man braking that viper is a bitch!
- strictnein, on 12/01/2008, -0/+2/thread
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/01/2008, -2/+13It takes you 100 times to pass your license test? Maybe racing games aren't for you.
  
  That said, the license system in the GT games are the only thing that made the game any fun at all. Without it I would have surely given up from frustration with not known how to drive. That's not to mention that I also learned quite a bit about the mechanics of driving a real car just from those exams and playing the game.
  
  If you're into cars it's all fun. If not then I wouldn't play it if I were you. Either way, why complain? No one is going to make you play it, and just because you don't find it appealing doesn't mean no one else does either.
- dysonlu, on 12/01/2008, -2/+6You bought the wrong game, buddy. GTA, not GT, is the "driving" game suitable for you.
- bduddy, on 12/01/2008, -2/+13Uhh... seriously, it's not that hard.
  
  *X*
  *wait 900 metres*
  *square*
  
  If you can't do that, what kind of games do you play?
Maazer, on 12/01/2008, -2/+3We'll see a THIRD demo before this comes out.
ThaDRD, on 12/01/2008, -2/+8I can't even play Gran Turismo Prologue after playing Wipeout HD.
FredFredrickson, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10I love how Sony promised a few huge games like FF13, MGS4, and GT5 to entice people to buy the system early on, and has only delivered one of those games since the console's release two years ago. Guess they wanted people to buy a bunch of $30 Blu-Ray movies in the interim?
- kronix2, on 12/01/2008, -0/+5Don't forget that FFXIII is due out on 360. There's also Tekken 6, which is slated for both platforms.
  
  I wonder how many people would've bought a PS3 at launch if they'd known GTA IV, FFXIII and Tekken 6 would get simultaneous 360 releases.
  - chaosblade77, on 12/02/2008, -1/+1I guess that depends on how many people bought a $600 console for one game. After the FF13 complaints, I'd actually say the difference wouldn't be all that major.
    
    I can't think of any reason why someone would complain about a game going multiplatform unless they are a complete fanboy, in which case they wouldn't be caught with the 360 anyway.
  - roxya, on 12/02/2008, -1/+1I complained when it went multiplatform because it more than likely means a delay of the PS3 version while the 360 version is being made (seeing as they said they won't touch the 360 port until the Japanese version is done and dusted).
    
    I don't care about a game being elsewhere unless it affects me.
  - kronix2, on 12/02/2008, -0/+3"I can't think of any reason why someone would complain about a game going multiplatform unless they are a complete fanboy, in which case they wouldn't be caught with the 360 anyway."
    
    @chaosblade77: Exclusives come into play when deciding which console to buy. Somebody may have bought a PS3 in the assumption that those three games would remain exclusives, as they'd been during the PS1 and PS2 generations.
    
    If people had known at launch that they could play GTA IV, FFXIII and Tekken 6 on a console half the price, wouldn't some have bought a 360? The only reason I bought a 360 was because of GTA IV. Now I'm glad, because practically ever great third-party game is multiplatform (due to the PS3's failure in its first year) and because the PS3 is now cheap enough to justify a purchase.
GIMLISONOFGLOIN, on 12/01/2008, -3/+9this game is the reason im getting a ps3. im kinda glad its not for another year, cause i sure as ***** cant afford that damned thing. but now i can start saving : )

i got a ps1 for original gran turismo, and a ps2 for gt3, so i dont really have a problem getting a new system for it. its going to be ***** siiiiiick
- thenewguy023, on 12/01/2008, -6/+1Like me you can get a PS3 for $318 - the 30% MS Live cashback = $225 with free shipping on Ebay.
- Zackinabox, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Same here GT is one of the only car games and games in general that never gets old to me.
cromulent742, on 12/01/2008, -3/+21Forgot to mention that it's going to be on the PS4.
azizrulez, on 12/01/2008, -0/+5"A Spanish Sony exec" well im not convinced until Polyphony Digital say so themselves.
ncc74656m, on 12/01/2008, -13/+7::sigh:: Sony killed the PS3, nobody else. I had such high hopes for it based on its hardware and the (still incredible) success of the PS2. It had so many exclusives prior to launch that it was destined to slaughter the 360, and despite all of the advantages it had, and all the pitfalls of the 360 (at launch, not now), it's hard to understand how it could've all gone so wrong.

Oh, and yes, I'm a hardcore XBOX fan, and I've just played with your heartstrings. Remember, the only reason PS3 fans constantly bury XBOX fans is because of sickening jealousy. BURY ME!!!
- plingboot, on 12/01/2008, -3/+9Oh come on the ps3 is far from dead. And I say that as a day one 360 owner. Microsoft have to practically give the thing away in order to compete with PS3. 360 feels cheap and cheerful, you very much get what you pay for with the 360. Mine sits on a box covered in fans -its nosy, temperamental and uses clunky 13 year old dvds. To me, it's as if microsoft cobbled together a 'next gen' system from bits and pieces they had lying around, whereas Sony engineered a true next gen system from scratch, cell processor, blue ray, free psn. Maybe it took longer to get to market, but good stuff takes time. The fact that their greatest game is still not available should tell you something about the quality coming out of the sony camp. The next time my 360 dies I'll bin it and buy a ps3.
  - sonicbliss, on 12/01/2008, -5/+1Amen plingboot! FINALLY some sense! 360 is cheap as sh!t
  - HolyChimp, on 12/01/2008, -0/+3I can't agree more with this. It's also why I can't recommend the PS3 to anyone asking me for advice for present buying this Christmas.
    
    With the 360 you get what you pay for, with the PS3 you'll eventually get what you paid for, so why not buy it next year when the price has dropped?
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singularityv, on 12/01/2008, -13/+7And in Christmas 2009, GT5 will be the only PS3 exclusive that doesn't suck.

Maybe then I can buy a used PS3 for dirt cheap. If not, I won't sweat it; Forza 3 will probably be out by then.
- jacksons98, on 12/01/2008, -6/+9Little Big Planet on PS3. According to metacritic rated higher than any exclusive on Xbox360
  - AmazingSteve, on 12/01/2008, -8/+5But sells far, far worse. You fail.
  - jacksons98, on 12/01/2008, -1/+4@AmazingSteve
    Little Big Planet has only been out a few weeks and since when do sales determine how good a game is? Some of the best games I've ever played had critical acclaim and low sales. Deus Ex and System Shock 2 are two examples.
    "You fail."
therodge, on 12/01/2008, -7/+7I have owned a PS3 since the day it came out and only have 2 games for it. It's only a blu-ray player to me... granted a very nice blu-ray player but the games suck.

Check out the graphics comparison
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6201700/index.htm ...
- jacksons98, on 12/01/2008, -6/+5Best exclusives are on PS3.
  - lsdarling, on 12/01/2008, -4/+1Come on now. Let us be honest. At best it's even, and that is being generous. I admit I wish metal gear was on the 360. Besides that the PS3 has very little I want to play.
  - sonicbliss, on 12/01/2008, -1/+5therodge
    
    Seriously, the link you provide to base the fact that games "suck" is to a graphics comparison... where even on the site they state:
    "We're at the point where games look and play nearly the same on both systems--any differences tend to focus on texture resolutions and antialiasing nitpicks that most people wouldn't notice unless they were playing the games side by side and pausing every few seconds to compare the two"- Like a saddo.
    
    Seriously stop being so sad, its nitpicking the site says it themselves and its not even onesided, many games look *marginally* better on ps3 as the 360. if you want to say the games suck maybe argue something more substantial?
  - frepnog, on 12/01/2008, -4/+1"its not even onesided, many games look *marginally* better on ps3 as the 360"
    
    not really. it usually turns out that it either looks BETTER on 360, or they look the same. I think the only game that even marginally looked better on PS3 was Oblivion, but by the time that came out who the ***** cared? unfortunately for Sony, the XBOX 360's superior graphics hardware keeps the score pretty lopsided. NOTHING on PS3 looks better than the best AAA games on XBOX.
    
    that has to hurt, at least a little, after all the ***** about 50 gig blu-ray games delivering unbelievable graphics, when your best game on a blu-ray doesnt look as good as the best game that came on a DVD9.
  - kronix2, on 12/01/2008, -2/+1That would have been true if Sony wasn't stupid enough to lose the exclusives for GTA IV, Tekken 6 and FFXIII.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/01/2008, -0/+5Buried for linking to Gamespot. ***** Gamespot.
- Sabin, on 12/02/2008, -2/+3So Fallout and Dead Space look better on the 360, SCIV looks better on the PS3 and everything else looks the same more or less except for the PS3 having slightly better lighting effects.
  - kronix2, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1GTA IV looks better on the 360 or PS3, depending on your viewpoint. The 360 version runs at 720p and has a much higher frame rate, while the PS3 version runs at 640p, runs at a slower frame rate, but reportedly has better explosion effects and so on.
    
    I've only seen GTA IV for PS3 on an SDTV, so I can't comment on the visual quality, but the frame rate is noticeably lower than the 360 version.
britblogger, on 12/01/2008, -3/+7***** me. they'd have released the PS4 by the time Polyphony get their ***** together and release this.
pseudo.hero, on 12/01/2008, -2/+3It'll probably just be a packaged set of all the "demo's" they've sent out over the past couple years. Oh well, yay for people that have been waiting for way too long.
estee0703, on 12/01/2008, -2/+1the moment they release it for psp
is the moment i rush to the stores to buy a psp
i4ybrid, on 12/01/2008, -2/+29My milestones for GT5:
August: Bought PS3
July: Re-Bought GT4, memory card adapter and transferred GT3 & GT4 save files
November: Bought GT5 Prologue
Two weeks from now: possibly buying a Logitech G25
One year from now (but probably later): Buying GT5
One month after buying GT5: Realize I've spent about $1500 on the same game as GT4 in high def.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/01/2008, -10/+5December 2008: Lie on Digg about owning a PS3
  - i4ybrid, on 12/01/2008, -3/+12You've caught me. I have to lie to an online community about owning a $500 gaming system. That's what my pitiful life has come down to.
  - SpeedSteamBoat, on 12/02/2008, -4/+2I know, a sad state of affairs indeed.
    
    Seriously though, maybe work on your sense of humor?
- mywhitenoise, on 12/01/2008, -4/+3GT4 is already in high def.
  - ensta2, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1This is true but the quality was not the same on the ps2
Ricemanstm, on 12/01/2008, -3/+16Realtime damage modeling or it's not worth it. How the hell do you promote a driving "simulator" if your car is indestructible?
- chiefbandit2200, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1Yeah, that was largely criticized in the last games, so hopefully they'll respond by changing it this time around.
  - Ricemanstm, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1It's Polyphony and Sony. I doubt it, but I've been wrong before.
Frozo, on 12/01/2008, -6/+3Who cares already. Sorry folks, dig me down but the only title Im less stoked about is Duke Nukem Forever.
Gev1982, on 12/01/2008, -5/+5And? I'm too busy playing fallout 3, gears of war 2 and left 4 dead to care!
scatterbrn, on 12/01/2008, -1/+3I'm still waiting for GT on the PSP. That's the only reason I bought one when they came out. I've since sold it since I really didn't use it much.
Barbarino, on 12/01/2008, -3/+11Any word on Forza 3?

If it were me, I'd put the game out sans a lot of cars, then start adding cars XBL. Build it as you go, don't charge for new cars.
- HolyChimp, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Great idea, but that's not how businesses run. How do you pay all the people making all of those new cars if you're giving them away for free?
  - chaosblade77, on 12/02/2008, -0/+1It's no different than what they are doing now, aside from the fact we don't have the game yet. Right now, they aren't getting ANY money. If they released the base game, then followed it up with car releases via free DLC, they would be making money off of game sales already, plus the DLC could act as an advertisement to keep interest in the game up, potentially resulting in more sales.
    
    It's not feasible because of the space limitations. While any PS3 model aside from the 20GB could probably handle that much content, I doubt anybody wants 20GB or so of their hard drive taken up by GT5 DLC (not to mention the time it would take to download if you got the game a couple years after release). Sure, there's the option to upgrade the hard drives, but a lot of people aren't going to want to do that.
rockrapdude, on 12/01/2008, -2/+1Yay! Now I have time to collect money for a PS3.
thefox84, on 12/01/2008, -9/+4Oh my gosh... this is soooo ridiculous. My purchase of any Playstation depends on three things, Socom, Gran Turismo, and Twisted Metal(though I can live without one of the three...if they're socom or twisted metal). I have been waiting SOOOOOOOOOO long for these games and now its still a YEAR away.. hell I bought a PSP on the premise that a portable GT was coming... and.... well yeah, I returned it. Sony you just epic failed, MS was way ahead of you on this one... and can I just say, that Forza 2 and PGR3,4(along with COD4) were so awesome that I don't need your console this time around... sorry Sony! Maybe next generation. Until then I'll stick with Twisted Metal Black, Socom 3, and Gran Turismo 4 *sigh*.
decker12, on 12/01/2008, -2/+13This would be hysterically funny if it wasn't so ***** sad.
bcrich999, on 12/01/2008, -5/+3Let's who will have the record, Chinese Democracy, Duke Nukem Forever or Gran Turismo 5. My guess is Chinese Democracy will hold the record for a long time
- Dustmuffins, on 12/01/2008, -5/+5Chinese Democracy is out you dumb *****.
  - DoubleTap84, on 12/01/2008, -1/+4And how long did it take? Thats right 15 years.... and which of these other things is going to take that long? Duke Nukem maybe... GT5 it better not...
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