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- gotacalc, on 11/21/2008, -11/+5http://www.npcfreegame.com/puzzle/pirate-chain.htm ... It's a pirate chain!
- BHSPitMonkey, on 11/21/2008, -31/+6Refusing to digg due to anti-MrBabyMan principle.
- Blandyman, on 11/22/2008, -4/+7That is easily the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Regardless of how prolific MrBabyMan's articles are, he submits good stuff. I think you should just chill out, read the ***** article, and digg it if you like it.- cr8nkenstein, on 11/22/2008, -4/+1BabyMan submits trash... Maybe YOU should chill the ***** out and stop digging anything he submits :)
DOWN WITH BABYSPAM!!
- cr8nkenstein, on 11/22/2008, -4/+1BabyMan submits trash... Maybe YOU should chill the ***** out and stop digging anything he submits :)
- fuse13, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Every internet news forum reaches a point at which a certain percentage of the population start focusing more on internal dramas and politics than the actual articles. MrBabyWhoCares. Read the damn articles. Comment on them. Stop whining.
- Blandyman, on 11/22/2008, -4/+7That is easily the dumbest thing I've ever read.
- coryjg, on 11/21/2008, -3/+88"He asked, however, that bloggers and forum members not spread the leak, putting his faith in their humanity and goodness."
This is the most ironic part!- Meocross, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Pot and Kettle calling human intelligence back..
- TomFrost, on 11/22/2008, -2/+5At first reaction it seems like it .. but not to sound elitist, if you're involved in a scene, you take care of your own. Spreading something by a scener in a taboo in most scenes, so I can only assume the Crackulous author was counting on the same kind of respect. And from what I've noticed, it appears that respect IS present in the iPhone cracking scene, at least on some level. All of ZodTTD's stuff gets removed from http://appulo.us for example.
- fuse13, on 11/22/2008, -2/+1lol "scene".
lol "but not to sound elitist".
The "scene" is a bunch of losers with just enough knowledge to rip off the work of people who actually do know how to build products. Then you have pointless pissing contests over who can rip off someone else's work first. Its an ego driven self indulgent wankfest from a bunch of people who create NOTHING and are particularly precious about it. Its like a bunch of car thieves who, in their heads, think they are in "gone in 60 seconds" when in fact they are just dumb thieves.
Nobody respects the scene, they just use the results.
- fuse13, on 11/22/2008, -2/+1lol "scene".
- apastafarian, on 11/21/2008, -4/+9PWNED!
- dreamvision, on 11/22/2008, -5/+54What a moron. They don' get much dumber than this.
>put a large majority of my free time into ensuring it will be the best application it possibly could be
And no developer who would consider charging a full 99 cents or more for an application would every consider such a thing.
>iPhone developers almost always (99% of the time) develop applications for the App Store in hopes of getting money."
For shame. People actually trying to get paid for their work! They and their families should starve and be happy that their apps were let free by those who know better. Everyone should just let their non-developer dads pay their bills.- haklab1, on 11/23/2008, -3/+0I have pirated this app and posted up the download for free at my anti-piracy website:
http://www.haklab.com/2008/11/crackulous-download. ...
- haklab1, on 11/23/2008, -3/+0I have pirated this app and posted up the download for free at my anti-piracy website:
- dvessel, on 11/22/2008, -1/+11::mind starts to boggle::
- Meocross, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2::rimshot::
- ZigVicious, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1::follows the crowd::
- Meocross, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2::rimshot::
- RudolfDiesel, on 11/22/2008, -4/+49for some reason I can't feel too bad for that guy...
- rivalius13, on 11/22/2008, -6/+39That guy's an *****.
- cloudberries, on 11/22/2008, -3/+20Haha! Silly hypocritical *****.
- dudefather, on 11/22/2008, -3/+31honor amongst thieves?
- PhillyMJS, on 11/22/2008, -1/+12404 (Not Found)
- e68895f, on 11/22/2008, -11/+33Most of the apps in the appstore cost 1-4 dollars per application. People who buy a 500+ dollars phone and then pirate 1 dollar applications are idiots.
- lilmentor3, on 11/22/2008, -9/+33yea just like the people who buy $1000 computers and pirate software, movies, shows, games... ***** off mr. high and mighty.
- e68895f, on 11/22/2008, -6/+10I can see your point, however, to spend an extra effort to "save" 1 dollar and not give it to the developer is pathetic.
- theonlywizdum, on 11/22/2008, -6/+11People buy $1000 computers and then pirate $500 - $2500 programs because you should not pay more for the software than the actual physical objects that they run on.
- TomFrost, on 11/22/2008, -4/+5Why do people pirate music that's only $0.99 per song? Because that cost adds up pretty damn fast when you're looking to buy a bunch. No, people aren't going to collect as many iPhone apps as they would MP3s, but when you have thousands of apps and most of them are only amusing for 2 minutes, you work through them quickly.
- noalarms, on 11/22/2008, -2/+6@TomFrost, lilmentor3
Yes, that may be true but piracy in any respect is wrong (in the terms this particular thread is about) and you should acknowledge that. I do. However, relatively speaking, a $1-5 app is not that much money to spend versus $500+ software. Most of us (who can afford iPhones at least) can drop a few bucks but $500+ is a real investment. That's the key difference.
And any comment on "Oh, but if you can afford an iPhone then you can spend $500+ on anything!" is ***** and you know it. - mudpuddle, on 11/23/2008, -4/+4Yeah, Safeway was selling mangoes the other day for $2 a piece. If they were 20 cents each, maybe I'd buy them. You see, I needed 20 mangoes for something I was making later in the week, and at that price, it would really add up. So I just took them instead, because that's how I roll with my selective relativist twisted ethics system.
Yes, mangoes are physical commodities and software is digital - does that help you rationalize it? - nan0bug00, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2The difference is that when you take a mango, or twenty, you are depriving whoever owned them previously of them. Any value that they had belongs to you alone after doing so. When software is copied, the developer is not deprived of an object. They still possess their software, they can still sell copies of it to upstanding citizens/suckers who are willing to pay for it.
That said, I believe developers should be reimbursed for their work. I have a list of software that I fully intend to pay for once I cease being a broke-ass college student, as well as a forgotten list of software that I pirated and will never pay for because after using it for any length of time I determined it to be a steaming pile of ***** and promptly deleted it. Yeah yeah, demos are around sometimes, but it's often faster for me to just leech the full version off the newsgroups or bittorrent instead of waiting in a fileplanet queue.
- e68895f, on 11/22/2008, -6/+10I can see your point, however, to spend an extra effort to "save" 1 dollar and not give it to the developer is pathetic.
- mikelieman, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5The real question:
Where are the OPEN SOURCE applications for the iPhone?
I got a compiler, and the chipset is pretty well known, so what's the friggin' hold up? Why can't I compile my own copy of Firefox, and run that on an iPhone, for instance? Then I could take advantage of the vast library of superior Open Source applications for my needs?- jferrari, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4There are a few open source applications for the iPhone, there are also 100's of free ones.
You can compile your own code and run it on your own iPhone through the SDK. - RobotBuddha, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4Jailbreak it.
- c99koder, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2@jferrari you cannot run your own code on your iPhone through the SDK without joining the $99/year iPhone developer program. The SDK will only let you run code on the simulator for free.
- jferrari, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4There are a few open source applications for the iPhone, there are also 100's of free ones.
- Delta009, on 11/22/2008, -3/+10Most shareware on the PC is 20$-30$. People who buy a 2500$+ computer and then pirate 20$ shareware are idiots.
- Dweller99, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4people who spend 2500$+ on a PC are idiots.
90% of all the PCs in the world could be had for a fraction of that. Gamers systems included, which tend to be near the cutting edge a lot of the time.
- Dweller99, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4people who spend 2500$+ on a PC are idiots.
- mdshort, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6If Photoshop was like $20, I would definitely buy it. As with any other software...
- reformation, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1I would like to believe you but I don't. Because you pirate music and videos that you can buy for less than $20. Probably.
- nan0bug00, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1Photoshop is priced appropriately. The only reason you should need all the features of Photoshop is if you are using it commercially, and if you're using it to make money, you should pay for it. Adobe makes software with a more reasonable price and feature set for the home user.
That said, Adobe should probably give away or offer deep price cuts on Photoshop for students, much like Microsoft has with their Silverlight program and price cuts on Office.
- lilmentor3, on 11/22/2008, -9/+33yea just like the people who buy $1000 computers and pirate software, movies, shows, games... ***** off mr. high and mighty.
- svensksvamp, on 11/22/2008, -3/+12douche.
- lilmentor3, on 11/22/2008, -16/+6the author is such a douche bag ... and ugly http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/1796
FTA "it's a shame this experience was not more of an ethical learning opportunity for Mr. SaladFork and his friends."
O please, kiss my ass... and go suck on Pirate Bay torrents!- passedoutghost, on 11/22/2008, -2/+1MAN THE HARPOONS!
- lilricky, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Hate to tell you this, but this is not the author of this "app". That is Erica Sadun, she is a respected author of several technology related books. Why are you accusing her of being the one who was cracking iPhone apps?
- MacParrot, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4Aww did Sadun kill your puppy....again?
The guy who wrote the cracking program is not stealing from big corporations, but mostly just from small developers. He can kiss my ass and I don't even own an iPhone - AbelDuarte, on 11/22/2008, -0/+0Agreed... + she's a thief herself... And I think we all know that Sadun is the "respected" author of the article and not the app..
She makes some crappy iPhone apps.. I dunno how she can write books about making apps like that.
- kelix, on 11/22/2008, -12/+4Wow.. the Author is UGLY! I mean.. if my dog was a pirate it wouldn't even ***** where it ate!
Erica Sadun- lilricky, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Hate to tell you this, but this is not the author of this "app". That is Erica Sadun, she is a respected author of several technology related books. Why are you accusing her of being the one who was cracking iPhone apps?
- kelix, on 11/23/2008, -1/+1You dick.. i was refering to the author of the article.. NOT the app
- lilricky, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Hate to tell you this, but this is not the author of this "app". That is Erica Sadun, she is a respected author of several technology related books. Why are you accusing her of being the one who was cracking iPhone apps?
- dlan4327, on 11/22/2008, -2/+8Irony. Gotta love it.
- Meocross, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Sad hypocritical hilarity.
- herrferret, on 11/22/2008, -1/+7The Irony. It is Delicious :D
- Smoko, on 11/22/2008, -1/+30Please don't distribute my application where I don't want it distributed. I put my own free time into it and I'm proud, but don't worry folks, you'll be able to rip people off that aren't me soon!
- c89a, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8i love piracy, especially when its pirated by other pirates! GARRRRHHH GENIUS!
- computershack, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5I hope everything the guy creates gets pirated to hell and back and then maybe he might actually get the point. Somehow, I doubt it though - people like him are just too stupid to make the link.
- DroogInPhoenix, on 11/22/2008, -1/+7I would have more respect for the guy if he said, oh well, ***** happens have fun, but to ask it not be pirated? He needs a spork up his ass so he can stab and spoon his poop to himself.
Ohh wait this is better from Hackulous: With a paypal link: "Your Donations Keep Us Running!"
Doesn't paying for software keep the developers running?- yournightmare, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2"Doesn't paying for software keep the developers running?"
--Yes, it does. But it's the complete opposite philosophy of donationware.
- yournightmare, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2"Doesn't paying for software keep the developers running?"
- crazysamz, on 11/22/2008, -5/+5This is like how people download limewire pro from within Limewire lol (limewire sucks btw, if you wan to pirate, utorrent ftw!)
- Meocross, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1Haha that reminds me similar thing happened to bittorent. every one pirated the BIttorent for mac on Bittorent before it was released XD
- kreatre2007, on 11/22/2008, -12/+6It's the ***** hackers that made Apple and AT&T over react and take away the ease of activation that original iPhone buyers had. Before the iPhone 3G, we could take the iPhone home, plug it into our computers and perform the whole process in iTunes. Of course, it didn't always workout that way for some of the early buyers but, it was much easier than standing in line for hours like customers had to do when the 3G first released. Screw the hackers! They deserve the ***** that they get for screwing around with the iPhone and not using it as intended. Software developers deserve to get paid. I work very hard on developing graphics for iPhone apps and, I don't appreciate that someone might try to hack my apps and not pay for them. *****' assholes!
- jparkinson, on 11/22/2008, -1/+10there's a difference between hackers and pirates... the hacks for the iphone make it a much more enjoyable device and they aren't hurting anyone... you just don't have to pay for it.
stealing app store apps is a different thing entirely
- jparkinson, on 11/22/2008, -1/+10there's a difference between hackers and pirates... the hacks for the iphone make it a much more enjoyable device and they aren't hurting anyone... you just don't have to pay for it.
- BMR777, on 11/22/2008, -2/+1How long until Apple uses the iPhone's ability to kill an app on this program? Apple will probably nuke this if they can, or brick the phones running it.
- jparkinson, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5bossprefs
- kevL0CK, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1leaked, and yet, i can't find a link to it anywhere. anyone want to message me a link? or maybe pop it up in rapidshare.
- iRead, on 11/22/2008, -1/+0That's what he gets.
- oddturtle, on 11/22/2008, -3/+8what is ironic is that these digg comments are from the same people who defend the pirate bay people - because somehow piracy is okay for music and movies, but not for those hard working, honest iphone developers.
- macchappy, on 11/22/2008, -1/+3I think that to most people, the MPAA and the RIAA are these big scary corporations that deserve to be stolen from because they are so evil, and because they make enough money as is. An iPhone developer seems more relatable, because it's just some guy at home who's been working on this and needs the money. Obviously, that's not true for all developers, but you get the idea.
- fuse13, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2When I sometimes copy stuff I dont make up some twisted logic to try to convince myself it is somehow "right". I know it is wrong, but I do it anyway. You are a coward hiding behind a flimsy excuse.
- RobotBuddha, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5There's stealing, and then there's combining it with hypocrisy. A lot of people who might not mind the first find the second annoying. Or, at least, laugh worthy.
- macchappy, on 11/22/2008, -1/+3I think that to most people, the MPAA and the RIAA are these big scary corporations that deserve to be stolen from because they are so evil, and because they make enough money as is. An iPhone developer seems more relatable, because it's just some guy at home who's been working on this and needs the money. Obviously, that's not true for all developers, but you get the idea.
- samkityoung, on 11/22/2008, -4/+4If you use the Pirate Bay, you are just like that guy. No reason to sugar coat it; If you think that guy is a thief, so are you. If you think what he is doing is okay, then power to you.
- cr8nkenstein, on 11/22/2008, -9/+4Buried for MrBabySpam :)
- Taiyoryu, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2Live by the sword, die by the sword.
- dbisping, on 11/22/2008, -6/+2this does not meet the requirements for irony!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
previously, it was ironic that he had not been pirated, since he himself is part of that culture.
now, as to be expected, he has been pirated.
this is an example of schadenfreude on the part of the reader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
it's an example of karmic justice on the part of the pirate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma - Matt2k, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5How do you punch people in the face over the internet?
Please tell me how.
Your friend,
Matt2k- svensksvamp, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1http://i38.tinypic.com/353cqb7.jpg
- Standachance, on 11/22/2008, -2/+0Thefts, freaking thefts - Hard working coders getting ripped off by thefts
Not sure why this Digg would find this a positive thing
Rot in hell and you will - ramsinks.com, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1thanks! I'll try this cracked app!
- spacebuddy, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Why would some steal a .99 cent app from a developer?
- LeeJeremyR, on 11/23/2008, -1/+4Because free is still cheaper than 99 cents
- QubitTarutaru, on 11/22/2008, -1/+2I wouldn't call that pirating, especially since it was going to be released for free anyways.
- svensksvamp, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1A pirate steals and then shares with his fellow mates.
What you're thinking about are those guys that run their business in the back of their car down the street.
- svensksvamp, on 11/23/2008, -0/+1A pirate steals and then shares with his fellow mates.
- mudpuddle, on 11/23/2008, -1/+2Another good quote from a donation page:
"What you may not know however, is that kyek and I have been paying for hackulo.us and appulo.us out of our own pockets. We don't have any ads on our site that generates any revenue. We're not doing this to make money, but rather for the good of the community. However with our new dedicated servers, hosting costs a lot more, and eventually this cost will take a toll on our wallets."
From http://hackulo.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=1574
As if taking time to develop iPhone games for income doesn't take a toll on one's wallet. - haklab1, on 11/23/2008, -3/+1I have pirated this app and posted up the download for free at my anti-piracy website:
http://www.haklab.com/2008/11/crackulous-download. ... - thealsir, on 11/23/2008, -0/+3He wants money for a pirating app? Talk about being a hypocrite.
- hulugulu, on 11/26/2008, -0/+0http://digg.com/users/saladfork
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